I watched their DVD's a couple weeks back, Bernt, and they mention it in their 2nd and 4th DVD. They mention a lot of things in those DVD's so it is very possible to miss their remarks imo.
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Martin said he had studied biokinetics so I assume it was more than a mention on a couple of DVD's. But there are not so many ways to rotate your shoulders and still have roughly the same geometrical forward bend, so he might as well has piced this up from somewhere else.
In any case: Kelvin has written several papers that deals with how the spine works in the golf stroke in an entirely different and more detailed manner than I've seen anywhere else. Sidebend in the down stroke is an important part of it. And a TGM flat shoulder back turn / steep shoulder down turn is very very very close to what Kelvin has found when he has studied some of the best current golfers. What I see in S&T in this regard is very different and not as well founded, IMO. But that is based on the H2 pictures in the book, since it is not very well described.
Bernt,
In the DVDs the S&T guys do explain side bend quite extensively. It was very enlightening to see how the spine changes angles through out the swing. I am not a S&T guy but I did find that interesting. Martin had me very confused with those PVC poles around his hips and shoulders and the door frame image. As for those guys teaching tilting, you are indeed correct but they do explain side bending as well.
Either way, I hope the show turns out to be good. I think the Golf Channel needs something other than re-runs and infomercials.
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I thought it was ok t best def better than what we have seen, Def TGM influenced. Being in the TV industry myself I think he will struggle with the producers and what not of Television. So when we criticize keep in mind that he doesn't have full reign. I will watch it.
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Does he become a solo act next week? Was Breed on just to ease him into being on TV or as a "guest star" to jump start School as a spin-off from The Fix?
I do not see how Yoda would fit into the present philosophy on TGC. Each show either states generalizations or "tips" on golf. In Yoda's lessons and presentations, he gives philosophy, alignments, the essentials, imperatives and structure. Once that package would be unleashed on the golfing public, many of those so called teachers would have to find another means of fleecing the viewers.
JerryG, I mentioned that earlier, TGC wants quick fix "tips" and apparently, so does the average hack. Intellectually most people will say that they know that the secret to the golf swing is a hard work, good instruction and more hard work. However, it seems most of the average Joes out there seem to think that with a new quick fix from instructor X, they will become a scratch golfer in a week.
IMHO, this is why the fast paced, quick gimmicky drill is what they will ultimately watch.
I am very glad that I found this site and the people here. It has been a great way to go so far.
I do not see how Yoda would fit into the present philosophy on TGC.
Martin Hall certainly does a good job of translating good fundamentals to analogies, metaphores and drills that everybody can relate to. This is a double edged sword. We who are familiar with TGM see the TGM and the debth behind his messages, but those who don't know TGM doesn't. It may be the best way to reach a large audience but a lot of the substance is lost in translation.
It will be interesting to see whether Martin aims higher as the series progresses or he stays at "wipe the milk off the table" level throughout. I hope he has the guts and gets the green light for raising the bar gradually throughout the show. Going from "wipe the milk" to hinge action and finish swivel would really be something. If he does, those who watch every show will learn a lot.
I haven't seen Yoda try to reach down to a translation that fits TGC. But I am convinced that he has the ability when the situation calls for it.
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